STEPHANIE & ALEXIA

DO YOU THINK THAT MEN AND WOMEN ARE EQUAL?

DO THEY HAVE TO BE EQUAL?

David F & Aurélien

For the first question, we think that men and women aren't equal yet. Therefore at work, they have always had a smaller wage than men, , for the same activity.

Valérie & Anne-Lise

Nowadays, men and women aren't equal even if people have changed a lot in their minds. We can prove it by looking at the wages.

David F & Aurélien

For instance, in our government, there are more men than women.

Patrice & Margaux

To our mind, men and women aren't equal because men are always paid more than women. Besides, men work more than women. We think that there will never be equality between men and women. It's impossible.

Samuel & David

For us, it depends on the country. Indeed, in France, now, women can have jobs they could not have in the past.

But there are still discriminations in other countries.

We know that men and women are not really equal but we would like you to explain us why discrimination still exists!!!

Alex & Louis

Alex and I think that women and men aren't equal.

François & Vincent

According to us, men and women aren't perfectly equal but nowadays we think that they have almost the same rights and living conditions.

Alex & Louis

Alex and I think that women and men aren't equal in fields like wage or skilled work,

but they have to be equal because sexism is a discrimination based on some stupid criteria.

Valérie & Anne-Lise

DO YOU THINK THAT A WOMAN COULD BE PRESIDENT?

David F & Aurélien

I think it's possible: a woman could be  president in France

STEPHANIE & ALEXIA

We think that a woman could be a president because she is as intelligent as a man!

Valérie & Anne-Lise

Yes, a woman could make a better president because women are less selfish!

Patrice & Margaux

VALERIA Yes we think that a woman could be president because there are some women who are minister, so if they can be minister, they can be president.

David F & Aurélien

To Stephanie and Alexia: It's a good answer but it isn't the main point. I think she has to have authority and she has to be able to make the right decisions

Valérie & Anne-Lise

For the guys in this classroom: Later, will you do home chores at home?

François & Vincent

Alex, what do you think about the women 's conditions of living? Are they really worse than men's?

STEPHANIE & ALEXIA

It is obvious that we will do the home chores but maybe less than today because we will share the work with our husbands.

Samuel & David

Yes of course, a man and a woman must help each other.

We think that men and women must share those activities!

François & Vincent

Of course we will help our wife at home.

Valérie & Anne-Lise

Good!

Patrice & Margaux

I think that my wife will do most of the work but I will help her when I can

David F & Aurélien

In my house I do the washing up I can do home chores.

M. Barron

Francois & Vincent, you say that you will help your wife at home, but saying that you consider that home chores are mainly women's responsibility

M. Barron

What could be done in order to reduce inequalities between men and women?

Manu & PYC

Reduce the wages inequalities

Valérie  & Anne-Lise

To reduce inequalities, we would have to change the world!

Samuel  & David

New laws would have to be created in order to stop inequalities

Manu & PYC

And open all sorts of jobs to women

François & Vincent

To make shocking adverts

David F & Aurélien

We could oblige the bosses to employ as many women as men, for example

Alex  & Louis

For the question of M. Barron, we think our generation is too intelligent to make discrimination like sexism or racism and we think in the future sexism will stop

M. Barron

Alex & Louis, do you really think that YOUR generation is TOO intelligent to discriminate men and women? Discrimination are IN our minds.

Alex & Louis

No, we are not TOO intelligent but we are intelligent enough not to make the mistakes that the generation before us did.

STEPHANIE & ALEXIA

As Françoise Giroud said, the women would really be equal the day when in an important task they would have an incompetent woman!

M. Barron

To David & Aurélien and the others, I think that parity everywhere would be a good means of reducing discriminations.

To everybody what do you think of parity?

François & Vincent

We think that parity isn't really necessary, we don't think there should be 50% of men and 50% of women in each job

Valérie & Anne-Lise

David and Samuel, what would you do if your wife would earn more money than you??? Would you be jealous?

Samuel & David

I would not take it well!

Valérie & Anne-Lise

Do you think it would mean your wife was better than you?

Samuel & David

It is better if the husband earns more money than the wife for the life couple.

A man who earns less than his wife wouldn't feel well.

STEPHANIE & ALEXIA

It is not a shame that a men earns less than his wife

M. Barron

Stephanie & Alexia, in couples where the man earns less than the women, there is a higher proportion of divorces

Valérie & Anne-Lise

It would be a good thing because we could divorce when we want it and without any financial problem!

Samuel & David

Yes, so if the man earns less money than his wife, if they divorce, the man will have problems!!

STEPHANIE & ALEXIA

MR BARRON: there are more divorces in a couple where the men earns less than his wife because the husbands are jealous of their wives

M. Barron

To every body: do you think that inequalities between men and women are natural or social (from our cultures and education)?

Patrice & Margaux

We think that inequalities are social

Alex & Louis

We think that it's question of culture and education

STEPHANIE & ALEXIA

We think that it's matter of education

M. Barron

If it is a matter of culture and education, why is it the same in most countries around the world?

Valérie & Anne-Lise

Women have been victims of discriminations for a very long time because they are considerate as "slaves"...

Samuel & David

You say that women are considered as slaves but if women run the world, I'm sure that men will became slaves too.

Patrice & Margaux

Women want a female president but are they agree to be "dust woman" (éboueuse)

David F & Aurélien

Dust work is too difficult for women

Patrice & Margaux

No, we don't think that dust work is just a work for man

François & Vincent

Valérie, don't you think that in the future, there will be the same problems but that men will complain because they are inferior?

Valérie & Anne-Lise

Samuel and David, Anne Lise thinks that later, when she has children, she will work less

M. Barron

TO ALL GROUPS: GIVE A CONCLUSION ABOUT THIS DEBATE, TIME IS UP !

Samuel & David

As a conclusion: it will continue to be an important debate!

Valérie & Anne-Lise

David and Samuel, it was a pleasure talking with you!

Patrice & Margaux

No, men and women don t have to be equal because men and women are different

Alex & Louis

TO CONCLUDE: the debate about discrimination doesn't seem to stop.

Manu & PYC

It was a pleasure to talk with everybody

François & Vincent

Our conclusion: if women who think they are inferior continue to hate men like this, the world is going to be sad

Valérie & Anne-Lise

Women (as a conclusion) will continue the fight against men like in our class!

STEPHANIE & ALEXIA

Women will have to fight for centuries and centuries the prejudices of our society